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		<title>Heartless Canadians don&#039;t write thank-you notes!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Whitacre</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<img src="http://www.paper-source.com/envelopes/cards.jpg" alt="Thank you notes" />No, it's not a nativist Hallmark offensive. Just my affectionate hyperbole. But check this out: apparently the post-interview thank-you note, an Pavlovian act for job applicants in the States, is shunned as <em>gouche</em> by our brothers and sisters in the Provinces.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.paper-source.com/envelopes/cards.jpg" alt="Thank you notes" />No, it&#8217;s not a nativist Hallmark offensive. Just my affectionate hyperbole. But check this out: apparently the post-interview thank-you note, an Pavlovian act for job applicants in the States, is shunned as <em>gouche</em> by our brothers and sisters in the Provinces.</p>
<p>An American studying at the University of Toronto wrote to say:</p>
<blockquote><p>I was in talking with one roommate, when our other roommate returned from a job interview and told us how it went. When she was done, I said, &#8220;Don&#8217;t forget to write your thank-you notes!&#8221; and both roommates looked at me like I had six heads! They said they don&#8217;t write thank-you notes after a job interview and in fact think that as an employer it would be really annoying to receive one.</p></blockquote>
<p>Is this straight from the Proper Behaviours of the Modern Canadian deck of playing cards, or is it a monstrous abberance?</p>
<p>To find out, I did what every American would do in such a situation&#8212;I called <a href="http://www.pm.gc.ca/eng/default.asp">Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper</a> and demanded a meeting. He refused, despite my insistence that as an American I outranked him.</p>
<p>So instead, I wrote to the only Canadian I know, the inestimable (though less inestimable than me) <a href="http://philrenaud.com/">Phil Renaud</a>. I put the question to Phil, are Canadians constitutionally unable to express thanks?</p>
<blockquote><p>ehhh</p>
<p>this is a tough subject.</p>
<p>Well, let me say this: I have written the thank you note. Once, in fact, and I did not get the job. However, that is not what deterred me.</p>
<p>When I started working at my job as a disc jockey some years ago, I was in charge of hiring new staff on a quarterly basis. About 20 applicants every quarter, about 10 of which are intereviewed, and every time somebody sent a thank you note (probably 50% of the time) it a) seemed a little annoying, and b) didn&#8217;t really even matter, because I could not remember even a day later which of the interviewees sent a thank-you note.</p>
<p>So, now I never send one. I figure, if I can&#8217;t express my desire for the job during the interview, then I&#8217;ve done something wrong already. A thank-you note doesn&#8217;t seem to be able to change that.</p>
<p>hope things cleared things up! Cheers!<br />
-Phil Renaud</p></blockquote>
<p>Thanks for the response, Phil! (Phil is a fellow, and, frankly, much better <a href="http://fadtastic.net/2006/04/17/on-transparency/">fadtastic</a> author by the way.) So there it is: the motivation. Now for the opportunity. . . .</p>
<p>American job publications insist, beg, and practically threaten you to write thank-you notes after a job interview. <a href="http://college.hmco.com/CollegeCatalog/CatalogController?cmd=Portal&#038;subcmd=display&#038;ProductID=11545"><em>The Business Writer</em></a> states:</p>
<blockquote><p>After a job interview, it is both polite and prudent to write a follow-up letter or e-mail message. When drafting this document, your goal is to thank the employer, offer more information, and show that you&#8217;re interested in the position.</p></blockquote>
<p>But Canadian advice is the polar opposite. The Canadian site of Yahoo! HotJobs quotes H. Anthony Medley, author of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0446693839/sr=8-1/qid=1145499408/ref=sr_1_1/104-6780319-7898339?%5Fencoding=UTF8"><em>Sweaty Palms, the Neglected Art of Being Interviewed</em></a>, who says:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I think they&#8217;re a bad idea.&#8221; [. . .] Medley speaks not from a human resources perspective, but from that of a hiring manager&#8212;the folks who usually make the final decision on whether or not a candidate is hired.</p>
<p>In his role as hiring manager, he finds thank-you notes to be &#8220;an irritant.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;All of a sudden,&#8221; he said, &#8220;you get inundated with these thank-you letters. They&#8217;re insincere. What do you do? Throw them away, file them, write them back?&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><img src="http://www.ocanadagear.com/graphics/toque-cdn-red.jpg" alt="Canada toque" />Well then. On that level, not writing a thank-you note is understandable&#8212;what Canadian would want to write one if they already know the recipient will feel ingratitude at their thanks?</p>
<p>Altogether it makes me wonder if ideas of politeness and courtesy are imprecise. Canadians, I&#8217;ve learned, love sincerity. Their politeness seems based upon avoiding situations where you have to say what&#8217;s on your mind, because it might not be positive (or it might be touchingly, effusively positive). It&#8217;s a politeness of regulating distance. On the other hand, as I&#8217;ve learned from living in North Carolina, Southern Americans use a politeness <em>dependent</em> on insincerity. But they use that insincerity to bring more people more easily together.</p>
<p>So when it comes to thank-you notes after an interview&#8212;or follow-up notes to story submissions, or first phone calls after a first date&#8212;just remember that it&#8217;s part of the art of managing relationships. The other person&#8217;s expectations matter. Those expectations must be your rhetorical parameters.</p>
<p>Whether you&#8217;re American or Canadian, violating those expectations is just plain impolite.</p>
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